Joseph was the son of John and Ann Turner, John’s occupation was a railway policeman. Joseph married Betsy Potts in the December quarter of 1882, the couple raised a family and stayed at 35 Fusehill Street Carlisle. Their Children were John born 1884, Reuben Potts born 1885 Margaret Catherine born 1887, Herbert Stanley born 1891 and Joseph born 1896

 

 

In 1891 Joseph’s occupation was a postal telegraph clerk, but by 1901 he was then an Assistant Superintendent, John was a apprentice joiner, Reuben P. was a trainee postal clerk. Things had changed occupation wise by 1911 Joseph was now a Superintendent, Reuben still at the post office. Margaret was still at home, a dressmaker, but by now Herbert Stanley was working as a clerk at the Royal Insurance, and lastly Joseph was now 15 years of age working as an office boy at the Cooperative

 

Things again changed when war was declared, Herbert Stanley Turner joined up and served in the A.F.C becoming a sergeant, later transferred to the 15th Durham Light Infantry and became a 2nd Lieutenant. Records show that he was missing presumed dead on the 24th March 1918. Records used were the Commonwealth War Graves Site. As many men joining up made wills, I obtained a copy of his will, made and signed on 11day of December 1917. The will told that Herbert had married, and his wife was Minnie Turner living at 35 Greystone Road Carlisle. Herbert had married Minnie Lisgo in the September quarter of 1917. Using the internet I obtained a copy of the war dairies for the 15th Durham Light Infantry this told that on the 24th March 1918 the battalion was fighting near Ailecourt –le Hoot. The clerk who kept the dairies recorded at the end of each month a list of injuries which for March 1918 were;- 17 officers dead or died from injuries Herbert Stanley Turner was one of those and 486 of other ranks. Mrs Minnie Turner would have received his medals at 17 Greystone Road Carlisle

 

The other members of the Turner family continued to live at Fusehill Street until, using records I found a marriage of a Reuben Potts Turner in 1918 at Ormskirk, unsure, but the name was not common, so I ordered a marriage certificate to find that he had married a lady called Elsie Helena Moss Child who resided at Southport just like Reuben.

 

Nothing is known of the other sons John or Joseph, their names were not recorded on the headstone in Richardson Street Cemetery. It told Betsy died 3rd.March 1937 aged 75years, Joseph on 11th October 1946 aged 90 years, and Margaret Catherine died 24th February 1953 aged 73years. Records state that both father and daughter’s funerals started from 35 Fusehill Street Carlisle.

 

As the eldest and youngest were not mentioned on the head stone it may be they were married and had a family of their own. I know this may be unusual but if any one connected with this family or has any knowledge of, them.

 

I would very much appreciate hearing from them . I then placed an advertisement in the Cumberland News and was fortunate to receive a reply from the granddaughter of Joseph Turner a lady called Glynis. We exchanged information that we had both gather over a period of time

 

Glynis grandfather Joseph had married in 1920 a Carlisle lady called Olive Curtis and in 1921 the couple had a child called Betsy Turner who later became Glynis’s mum, so ending the Turner line there, more research told that John the eldest son immigrated to Canada in 1906 and had met a young lady called Margaret Dobbie. The couple were married on the 28th August 1909 at Wentworth, Hamilton Ontario. On the 1911 census we see the couple now with a young Joseph Stanley this was the start of their family consisting of two boys Joseph Stanley and Reuben Potts and three girls Betsy May, Margaret Catherine and Amelia born in 1920.

 

To see the Turner family line continuing we must follow the family in Canada.